Internal or external frame?
I need a new backpack. What’s better: Internal or external frame?
– Confused Carl, Aptos, Calif.
Dear Confused, you must be a mind reader because thousands of other guys are wondering this same thing. Then again, if you really were a mind reader you wouldn’t need to ask me questions because you’d already know exactly what I was thinking, right?
I digress.
So, backpacking packs come in two types. External frames packs are those with a framework on the outside. These old-school-style packs are the best choice if you’ll be hiking mostly on groomed trails carrying lots of weight. They’re especially good at transferring the load so you can hike in a more comfortable upright stance. They’re also about half the cost of an internal frame pack, which has its support hidden inside like a skeleton.
Internal frame packs are usually more form-fitting, so they are better for guys who’ll be hiking rugged trails that require freedom of movement and balance. Most internal frame packs have one huge compartment with a couple of zippered access points, whereas external frame packs usually have lots of smaller compartments that make organization easier. You can also easily attach extra gear – such as a sleeping bag or fishing rod – to the frame.
Which type of pack is better is really up to you and your needs.
I like external framed backpacks because then you can tie items on the back.
I bought a Teton internal frame pack, but abandoned it and went back to my old Jansport External frame pack because it took me forever to find my stuff, and then to put it all back in compared to the external frame pack, and because the internal frame pack made my back all sweaty.
Externals for the experienced hiker!
External packs, buy them for life. :^)
Internal for mountain climbers
All elite mountaineering climbers and hikers use internal frames. If you ever see films of people summiting Mt. Everest, not one of them will have an external. Internal is the best way to go for comfort and ease on the back. the best use for external packs is for heavy loads on trails.
You are completely wrong. External frame packs put the load directly onto your hips and internal frame packs put A LOT more weight on your shoulders. People climbing everest do use internal frame packs because they’re covering steep, rocky terrain. If you’re not summiting K2 or Everest most people will be better served by an external frame pack.
Mountainclimbers use internal frames because that is the best option for mountain climbing, and many internal frames are tailored for this purpose (better balance, heat retention, ultra-light ultra-compact gear, etc…). Just because it’s good for mountain climbing doesn’t mean it’s good for everything else, and for any extended hiking an external frame is the best choice, even in rugged terrain.
You both have obviously never had an internal. Internals do not put a lot more weight on your shoulders. they tend to put a little more but not a lot. and did you ever consider that if an internals works for die-hard mountaineer’s then they will work for easy going trail hikers? I have taken mine on a five day hike through Idaho wilderness with no trail and it had plenty of room for all my gear. Your both wrong. and I think i have explained why very clearly.
I like external frames as they are built very strong and hold my sleeping bag well away from my back and legs. Many Internal frames do not have a back mesh to separate the backpack form the hikers back, lack of a back mesh can also cause retention of more body heat making the internal frame backpack potentially more uncomfortable and sweaty when hiking.
I purchased two new Camp Trails bsack packs at a flea market internal I think as there was no frame with them. There is a u shaped rod in each one. Anyone know where I can purchase the frame for them?
I personally prefer the external frame. I have never tried an internal but my brother has one but it isn’t to bad at all. My pack has lasted roughly 4 years and is going to retire soon. These packs work well with bigger individuals since they are designed for more wieght. I can carry mine fairly easy in my troop and I notice the smaller scouts generally use an internal frame.
I myself have never used a external frame and I am sure they are good but the internals are very fitting to your body and if you pack it the right way they feel extremely light.
I totally agree with you! I have an REI 2010 Mars 85L internal frame pack and it is amazing! I would never hike with an external frame. I have plenty of air flow between my back and pack and love it. Internal frames all the way! I see a lot of people replying that you can’t hang much stuff off the outside of an internal frame. I can get snowshoes, an inflatable sleeping pad, 2 large backpacking water bottles, and a fishing pole on the outside, plus all of my ropes and stuff. You just need to find the kind of internal frame pack that has lots of hooks, loops, and clips for attaching stuff.
I need a backpack that is light, but can also carry a fair amount of gear. I also need it to be pretty good on the back. Any help?
Teton Sports Explorer 4000.